How to deal with: 1. Students Who Lie & Deny 2. Sending Home, The solution to the in-your- face Defiant Kid

There are TWO different ideas handled in this post:

Point 1:  Students who Lie & Deny  Click on the link below or image at right.

Even if you know how to deal with students who lie & deny (1st… don’t argue, right?)  you may wanlie11t to save this site for solutions or tips on dealing with rarer and more tricky management situations during your day. 

Classroom Management Tips
(How to Handle Students who Lie)


(I couldn’t just post a blog I had to add my own advice below which I’ve followed many times in my career.  In a staff meeting many teachers made it clear they never considered they had this option.)

Point 2:   ‘Sending Home’ as a Solution for
the In-Your-Face Defiant Kid

One highly under utilized strategy (it depends on your state education code)  for that rare, super problematic kid if he doesn’t have an IEP or behavior plan, is to just send them home.  Most state laws grant you that right.  You don’t have to do an official suspension.  Kids go home sick all the time, no one raises an eyebrow right?  This is no different.  In California and many others teachers have the right to suspend if a child is disruptive.  It’s not as big a deal as everyone thinks.  Remember, it’s your classroom.     angry boy

This is only for the “no I won’t”  silently or aloud kid who won’t go to the office or follow the class someplace.  I don’t do it for ‘meltdowns’ inside class or even refusal to work.  Sometimes, I will do it even if the principal is there but if he is it’s wisest to call him first. If he is too busy… call the parent, especially if education has come to a complete halt.   I explain to the child, “You can only stay at school if you do what the teacher says.”   Because it’s true.  We can’t make children sit in their seats. We don’t make them do their work or consequence.

You call the parent and say they have a choice, they can come and get the child now, no fuss, no ‘official’ suspension or you can do it officially with paperwork. The child can try again tomorrow, they will be welcomed back.  No parent should want an official expulsion because a child only gets so many of those before action must be taken.  This is just a wake up call for the parents.

Note:  Be sure you are on solid ground with your administrator and state.  I’ve done this a half dozen times over the past 15 years, mostly in fifth grade.  I’ve never been reprimanded for doing it.  Because you do have the right to teach, children do have the right to an education.  You and your class don’t have to tolerate a child who is making life miserable on purpose (with the usual exceptions – no classroom aid to take him/her out  of the room and no Special Education Plan.)  But it’s seldom those kids.  It’s the one child whose parents claim is absolutely normal but who clearly has oppositional defiance behavior.  Some teachers think they and all the other children must tolerate every single disruptive behavior because a child has a label.  Or they see the inability to make every last child act perfectly a failure on their part.

This action puts pressure on parents to discipline harder or more consistently which they usually aren’t and are just hoping you’ll house their child for the day. If you have a child like this, you can bet very early in the year, like during the first week, your limit will be tested on what you will allow.  We don’t have to put up with it because it is not just that disruptive child who has a right to an education, you have the righteous power of more than twenty other families whose children also have a right to an education!  If the parents ask, “is this a formal suspension?” – I say no (no administrator has ever questioned me on this).. and the parents shouldn’t want it to be either.  This is fast and low key, no muss, no fuss.  The child is gone, you’ve made your point in a huge way and you can get on with your day.

A few years ago I had one of the most difficult children in school, a truly defiant willful child with next to no respect for authority.  I sent him home three or four times that year.  The parents didn’t like it but what could they say when I explain, as sweetly as possible, a single child cannot be allowed to set the agenda for twenty plus students and one teacher.  There is no arguing with that position. And, it’s not about what’s good for you as a teacher, it’s about what is good for the other students.   Kill them with kindness  but don’t bother trying to make them like you. If those parents can’t already see that you truly care for their child (which is one reason you aren’t tolerating that child’s behavior!) it’s because such parents will always project upon you all their frustration with a school system that forces them to recognize their child’s or their own issues.

Off record suspension forces parents to heighten their consequences and discipline because, if nothing, they want their peace at home during school hours.  It’s even more intense if a parent has to leave work to get their child.  After that first and sometimes second time, that child will finally fear you contacting their parent(s).

Parent may claim, “But he/she is never that way at home.” don’t bother arguing, just know that it’s probably because the child gets its way all the time.  Just let them know that you’re happy to see their child back the next day when they’re clear they must do what the teacher asks.

Remember, it’s not just that disruptive child who has a right to an education, you have the righteous power of more than twenty other children also have a right to an education!   A child can’t act defiantly at school, it simply can’t be tolerated as it isn’t in the adult world.  When adults refuse to follow the rules, the police are called.

For people who argue, “What kind of punishment is being suspended?  The child gets the day off!”  It’s not punishment for the child, it’s punishment for the parents.  And, it’s a break for you and your class who have the right to learn in peace.  Besides, there is something inherently shameful about being sent home from school.  While many children love to hate school, deep down they know they need it. Also, there’s powerful reverse psychology there, they aren’t allowed to be at school, so suddenly they want to be!   Here’s the real kicker, that kid also wants to come back because, for at least seven months, they want you as an adult in their lives who will, for a change, discipline them firmly, kindly, and consistently.  I often think this is why problematic kids act out more at school.  They want the limits, delivered kindly, that they don’t get at home.

Eventually the parents after the 2nd or 3rd call and threat of first real suspension will finally begin to find a way to get through to their child. That is the true power of unofficial expulsion.

Recently, because some teachers were sending home more children of color for offenses that lighter skinned children in whom they were tolerating similar behavior.  But, since I’m sure you are sensible good-hearted teachers as readers – I don’t even need to give a warning to be fair.  In some states, (this just changed in California) can sometimes only send to the office for disruption.  But the whole idea is that it’s not official.  I don’t overuse it.  I’ve gone six or seven years without needing to, but for that really awful kid needs to learn, schools are only for those who do what the teacher says.  Always though, within limits, if they really don’t want to work but don’t bother anyone else, tell the parent, but only send home for truly disruptive outright in-your-face defiance.

Remember it all comes down to relationships, if you are kind and fair and truly like your kids, they will do what you ask, poorly perhaps but they’ll do it.  Students write sentences for me all the time for misbehavior.  They could throw a fit but they don’t, they just take their punishment quietly and get it over quickly so they can breaking another rule soon!

2 thoughts on “How to deal with: 1. Students Who Lie & Deny 2. Sending Home, The solution to the in-your- face Defiant Kid

  1. I have an “in your face” kid, he is on an IEP, but mostly mainstreamed. I agree with most of your points, but stating, “…This action puts pressure on parents to discipline harder or more consistently which they usually aren’t and are just hoping you’ll house their child for the day.” is not correct. It’s not always a, “not my kid” situation. Some things are just not black and white, to up the consequences on an emotionally disturbed kid is not always the right thing to do. Every situation is unique and there is no blanket approach to handling/parenting children that are “in your face.”

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  2. I agree. There is no blanket rule. There are huge amounts of judgement involved in each situation,especially for children who are not neurotypical. I never meant to imply there was a blanket way to handle anything. In fifteen years I’ve only done it two or three times, so it’s not like I recommend this lightly. However, many veteran teachers don’t even know they are allowed to even consider sending children home. That is why I mentioned it.

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